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Enough is Enough

  • One of my pet peeves is the constant bashing of Christians by my own people of faith.  Yes, back then the very unChristian factions that went about burning accused witches at the stake, who slaughtered pagans into conversion as seen with Charlamagne and the Massacre at Verden where 4,000+ pagan Saxons died because of their adherence to their religion.  I could list more, but really it doesn't matter because this doesn't reflect the reality of Christianity.  There was no love in these violent acts and thus goes entirely against Christianity.  So, I feel there should be no apologies from the present day Christian community for the actions of those who killed in the name of their faith and God in the past.

    Besides, we pagans aren't actually free of blood stained hands.  From the early days of Christianity where Christians were fodder for entertainment in pagan Romes colosseums to the brutal attack on Lindisfarne by pagan Vikings that saw the slaughter of peaceful Christian monks.  If we agree that Christians should apologize for the deaths of pagans thousands of years ago then in return we pagans should apologize for the equally brutal actions of our pagan ancestors.  However, I find any apology for past grievances that don't effect us today is pure nonsense.  No Christian nor pagan should apologize for what happened ages ago in the past, way before we were a glimmer in the eyes of our mothers.

    How shameful are we when any of us ask for an apology for things others have never done?  Shall I apologize for slavery and persecution of Christians when I have done neither?  Of course not.  This is not rational and it is very stupid.  I love my Christian friends (both on and offline) and family, so to ever make them feel guilt for things they've never done would make me an insufferable cretin worthy of being placed on a split over a scorching flame.  I admit, though, I had the very thoughts of blaming Christians for everything, but growing up brings along with it wisdom to know when to realize that certain things don't require forgiveness especially when one hasn't committed an act of violence against you or your brethren in faith.  All this amounts to is a silly game of, "But they started it!"  No they didn't.  Neither one of us did.  However, we do have the power to end the nonsense today.  It takes a rational mind and open outlook.

    Brightest of Blessings to my Christian brothers and sisters and my Pagan brothers and sisters.  May peace find its way to our hearts.

Comments

18 comments
  • ThoughtsAloud ◄Dave►
    ThoughtsAloud ◄Dave►
    Jonathan,

    As an advocate of Liberty, I am constrained to admit that you have a right to take your soapbox to the town square, and preach your gospel of hellfire and damnation, for those of us you regard as sinners against your preferred god. However, if...  more
    September 2, 2011
  • Keven  Card
    Keven Card I've said it before; if Christians would deal with people with respect and not condemnation it would promote their faith as a viable alternative. Dave is absolutely right; the more Christians condemn the more people with defend themselves.
    Jonathan, I k...  more
    September 2, 2011
  • Keven  Card
    Keven Card There's a reason that Lakewood Church is the largest church in the United States...in a word...LOVE!
    September 2, 2011
  • Hassan Nurullah
    Hassan Nurullah "LOVE" always tells the truth. If your church goes out of it's way to not offend, then it cannot be preaching the pure word of God because that Word is offensive. Especially the Gospel of Christ!

    "But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumbling...  more
    September 2, 2011
  • Keven  Card
    Keven Card Hassan, I'm not going to rehash old arguments. Truth doesn't have to come in the form of a 2X4. Paul wrote the Corinthians in love when they were straying from scriptures. In order to tell people a truth that they’ll receive; you have to establish trust. ...  more
    September 2, 2011
  • Hassan Nurullah
    Hassan Nurullah The Apostles never minced words as you want to believe, it is continually stated in Scripture that sound doctrine must be "endured". That means accepted not because it makes us feel good but because it is the truth! The very word "endured" means that it i...  more
    September 2, 2011
  • Keven  Card
    Keven Card Hassan,
    I have no problem with truth or of preaching sound doctrine...I wish you’d look past that…but you fail to see what I see.

    "32 And when they heard of the resurrection of the dead, some mocked: and others said, We will hear thee again of this matt...  more
    September 2, 2011 - 1 likes this
  • Jon McKeone
    Jon McKeone I hear what you're saying Keven. I've always wondered when believers should simply shake the dust off their feet as it were in an area or with a group that repeatedly show no desire to hear or to act upon the truth. The world is full of hungry hearts read...  more
    September 2, 2011 - 1 likes this
  • Keven  Card
    Keven Card Jon, that sir is an excellent point. The question for each of us to answer in the privacy of our prayer: Where is God asking us to go and what is he asking us to do? Thanks for your insights.
    September 2, 2011
  • Hassan Nurullah
    Hassan Nurullah LOL, I am not talking to an unbeliever Keven, I am talking to you! I don't continue with unbelievers unless they continue to ask questions. Look back at my exchanges with Mormons.

    Peace in Him!
    September 2, 2011
  • Todd "tryanmax" Maxwell
    Todd "tryanmax" Maxwell ◄Dave► Are you Kevin Pezzi?
    September 2, 2011
  • ThoughtsAloud ◄Dave►
    ThoughtsAloud ◄Dave► No. Who is Kevin Pezzi?
    September 2, 2011
  • Todd "tryanmax" Maxwell
    Todd "tryanmax" Maxwell He is a blogger I have encountered. Much of what you write is very similar to what he writes. You know how the internets work, different site, different handle.
    September 2, 2011
  • ThoughtsAloud ◄Dave►
    ThoughtsAloud ◄Dave► I just looked the good Doctor up. Todd. Interesting fellow and a prolific writer. I need to spend some more time at a few of his websites. It happens that mind/brain research and the nature of consciousness is a particular interest of mine, too. I'll take...  more
    September 2, 2011
  • Todd "tryanmax" Maxwell
    Todd "tryanmax" Maxwell Like any good thinker, I agree with him on some points and disagree on others, but I always appreciate his perspective and depth of reasoning.
    September 3, 2011 - 1 likes this